Gilakas’la. Thank you Mr. Chair and members of the Justice committee for providing me the opportunity to give extended testimony to you today. I would like to acknowledge that we are on the ancestral lands of the Algonquin people.
My goal in my testimony is to outline the details of these communications for the Committee, and indeed for all Canadians. However, before doing that, let me make a couple comments. With that said, the remainder of my testimony will be a detailed and factual delineation of the approximately 10 phone calls, 10 in-person meetings, and emails and text messages that were part of an effort to politically interfere regarding the SNC matter for the purposes of securing a deferred prosecution.
This same day my Chief of Staff exchanged some emails with my MO Staff [Francois Giroux and Emma Carver] about this, who advised her that the Deputy Attorney General – Nathalie Drouin – was working on something , and that my staff [Emma Carver and Gregoire Webber] were drafting a memo as well on the role of the AG vis à vis the PPSC.
September 8 – my Deputy shared a draft note on the role of the AG with my Chief of Staff who shared it with me, and over the next day clarity was sought by my staff with the Deputy on aspects of an option that was in her note. They said that they understand that there are limits on what can be done, and that they can’t direct, but that they hear that our Deputy Minister thinks we can get the PPSC to say “we think we should get some outside advice on this.” They said that they think we should be able to find a more reasonable resolution here. They told her that SNC’s next board meeting is on Thursday . They also mention the Quebec election context.
On September 17: The DM said that Finance had told her that they want to make sure that Kathleen understands the impact if we do nothing in this case. Given the many potential concerns raised by this conversation, I discussed it with her later that day. The PM again cited potential loss of jobs and SNC moving. Then to my surprise – the Clerk started to make the case for the need to have a DPA – he said “there is a board meeting on Thursday with stock holders” … “they will likely be moving to London if this happens”… “and there is an election in Quebec soon”…
I have always had a great respect for Puglaas . She is a true leader, not a politician.
Puglaas very proud that you are such a strong, proud and amazing person! Thank you for honestly and lawfully serving your country! We as Canadians can’t express how much we appreciate you upholding the law, defending our constitution and being non partisan in that role.
Well done JW-R you show great integrity
Given what Puglaas just testified to, wouldn’t the proper thing to do be to resign from the Liberal government and sit as an independent? Why would anyone want to still serve in such a government after what she experienced? SNCLavelin SNCLavalinGATE
HOW ARE PEOPLE NOT GOING TO JAIL!?!?!? it's so frustrating watching our political elites robbing taxpayers, breaking laws and then getting away with it.
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