John Ivison: CSIS elastic interpretation of Emergencies Act puts Trudeau on firmer ground

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CSIS director seems to have accepted a rather elastic interpretation of the legislation. It remains to be seen whether the inquiry agrees.

The Liberals have been adrift on a tossing sea as multiple witnesses testified to the Public Order Emergency Commission that, while the act was helpful, it was not necessary.The NP Comment newsletter from columnist Colby Cosh and NP Comment editors tackles the important topics with boldness, verve and wit. Get NP Platformed delivered to your inbox weekdays by 4 p.m. ET.By clicking on the sign up button you consent to receive the above newsletter from Postmedia Network Inc.

That definition is outlined in the Emergencies Act as flowing directly from section 2 of the CSIS Act, which states that a threat to the security of Canada requires the threat or use of acts of serious violence against persons or property for the purpose of achieving political, religious or ideological objectives.

Vigneault, who was re-appointed as CSIS director last June, said that his advice was provided as “national security adviser, as opposed to the director of CSIS”. CSIS’ analysis of ideologically-motivated violent extremism has three criteria that moves individuals and/or organizations from actors to targets: a willingness to kill or to inspire others to kill; a desire to attempt societal change; and, an ideological influence.

Yet, as national security adviser Jody Thomas testified last Friday, the government had decided to use a broader definition of a threat to national security than the one laid down explicitly in the Emergencies Act.

 

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It's ok people!! They will be held accountable in the next election!! Scandal after scandal!!

The emergencies act is not open to interpretation.

Are we surprised? Nope. The system is rotted from the inside out. Trudeau bought the it a long time ago. He’s been smugly and arrogantly waiting to play his trump card from the beginning because he knew nothing would stick cuz he’s the Teflon Man and $$$ talks.

Yes curfew for your junkie no gooder kids like father like son

Mr. Vigneault has an M.A. in political science from the Université de Montreal and a B.A. in political science from the Université Laval. Begs the question ...what makes Mr Vigneault qualified to answer said question?

Are you kidding

Shutting down our capital for three weeks, and blocking billions of dollars of trade goods from crossing our borders was a serious threat to Canada. If these were environmental protestors, the CPC would have brought out the teargas and batons in Week 2.

CSIS director David Vigneault confirmed that he advised PM Trudeau to invoke the Act despite acknowledging that the Convoy did not meet the threshold of a national security threat.

I knew this was going to be Trudeau's out. Ivuson is the fall guy

Of course CSIS would like something that makes their job easier.

This guy should be fired.

CSIS can't fully disclose that there was no threat to gov't but then advise them to invoke the EA cause they 'felt' the law involved should be changed. The law might have to be changed. But that's irrelevant now. The law now is what matters legally. There was no threat.

Are they also corrupted ? Probably …as everyone involved in this “comedy”

the whole thing is a sham and the mainstream media keeps propping in these criminals

From villain to Liberal friend. lol. “The CSIS director seems to have accepted a rather elastic interpretation of the legislation.”

I wonder what Trudy Doo promised him.

I don't recall laws being elastic or based on one man's opinion

So, if CSIS tells Justin Trudeau to assassinate a Premier, is he also on firm ground then? Trudeau delendum est.

Justin gave him his opinion, we know how that works, JWR explained Justin's way in the world !

Trudeau needs to step down He's made such a mess

Trudeau delivered the EA against the existing law. Had all members agree. They all will face the law suit now. It was only to stop from embarrassing the government and Trudeau.

The law is the law and not even the Head of CSIS is above it. He needs to be fired.

There goes CSIS integrity! Trudeau is made of Teflon nothing will ever stick to him when others can take the fall or the blame! Well after all this he will be back on a taxpayer’s vacation soon. Canada 🇨🇦

You just have to love that an executive agency is in control of decision making like this. Just like the US Congress, Parliament is gleefully handing all the power over to the executive in order to abdicate responsibility, so they don't have to answer for their decisions.

What a bunch of BS. The whole of government is corrupt.

Someone must've been promised quite the reward.

Was the CSIS director hand picked by Trudeau?

when is a law not a law? When u broaden n intepret it so that it fits your agenda smh

They are basically saying: Robbing a bank could be elastically interpreted as a non-repayable long term loan.

Lol 😂 let me guess who pays his 6 figure salary!

Here's a crazy idea to consider, to save time/money/energy otherwise spent floundering to find justifications for actions which are unjustifiable: Maybe the protestors were right!

CSIS is protecting Canada, they know that if it’s found that the PM invoked the EA unnecessarily is would hurt our image globally. After all democratic countries don’t use an EA to squash a protest, that only happens in countries like Iran and China, oops and Canada.

Stop the BS, Canada.Trudeau Jnr. failed to respond appropriately to the convoy protest. He resorted to excessive force of the Emegencies Act trying to emulate his father who activated the War Measures Act to Quebec separatists provoking potential constitutional chaos.

That .. or the 'Northern Patrol Posting'

It puts Trudeau on illegal grounds and seriously threatens the rule of law in Canada. That is nothing to celebrate.

Making up definitions as they see fit. Using an Emergency act to quell political dissent. I say the protesters should go right back to Ottawa again.

So.... this is how safe our charter rights are? Invoking the Emergency Act was justified because there ought to be a law that allows it (even though none exists today). Interpretations decided behind closed doors. This is Canada?

What else would you expect?

John Ivison can't handle the truth.

Lol.

Perhaps he just experienced it differently

A fellow Quebecer comes to the rescue of Trudeau. Quebec has the reputation for being the most corrupt province for good reason. Btw the judge was appointed by Trudeau and was formerly ememployed by the Liberal party of Canada. This is not an enquiry. It’s political theatre

Isn’t the point of legislation to prevent this type of overreach, ensuring that changes to key definitions cannot float in the breeze, but must be passed by parliament? Somebody wants an ambassadorship and is willing to take one for the team!

It's not his job to tell Trudeau what he wants to hear. He should be fired!

Based on what legislation? Everyone involved so far have already stated the protest did not meet the requirements for invoking EA. When it comes to suspending Charter rights, the government does not get to make up its own definition on the fly

Elastic. You mean fraudulent and fascist, Ivison?

This guy's testimony did the exact opposite

No, it doesn't.

CSIS doing what the SCOC does - interpreting and reading in what they want it to be.

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This stinks to high heaven. No evidence of security threat by their own reports but the head believes in his 'opinion' at a secret meeting that it was necessary. As the act is written there were no facts to back it up. So let's update the act it so the gov action is justified.

TrudeauWasRight

First of all he also said it was his personal opinion only from the hearsay around the table. Not the event itself. AND it did not match the CSIS definition of a threat. Details Media do not add, on the Corporate Media TV channels! Ridiculous.

Alternative, more appropriate headline: TrudeauWasRight

In a despotic nation,this sort of this is excused. If we have a remnant of law order and a free nation, this will never be tolerated. If he gets away with it, its hopeless.

I think everyone needs to wake up. The capitol gets stormed in the US. - and whether you believe that to be a cons theory or true - they had weapons. Truckers in Canada had horns. Just because they found someone to put their career on the line for them doesn’t mean it was just.

Bureaucrats run the show not the elected officials?

Trudeau and his liberals are setting the precedent that any future government can invoke the emergency act based on feelings regardless what the law states? I’m sure liberals will defend the EA being used on climate, indigenous protest

Yea, no.

The overtime goal has just been scored and the game will go on for another week....

both of them are like quicksand sinking quickly , all liars

We know the truth. This story is not the truth.

misleading there is no 'firmer ground' for Trudeau he is a corrupt, immoral, treasonous, globalist/ fascist, narcissist, who has hosed the Canadian working public beyond imaginable measure

Hmmm…”elastic interpretation” is quite suspicious

So, JTs rationale for crushing dissent did not meet the EA criteria. But now, there is a new interpretation after the fact. CSIS agrees. RCMP agrees. The Supreme Courts will agree as well I'm sure. Remember this when a future government uses the EA to silence leftists.

Breaking news: interpreting laws more loosely is helpful for avoiding accountability for breaking said laws. EmergenciesAct cdnpoli

All the testimony of this week will be pro Trudeau justifying the Emergencies Act. Liberal hype, spin and virtue-signaling at its finest.

The Department of Justice, led by an elected Liberal MP, can try to bend their interpretations of legal statutes however it finds politically convenient, but that won't make their invocation of the Emergencies Act any more legally justified as the law is written.

Is that the propaganda word of the day fakenews?

The wasted tax payer money on this silly excuse for lawyers, buearcrats and politicians to debate piles of bull manure. The world is restless Shiite happens.

Convenient broadening of the definition. In Christianity we call it the spirit of the law opposed to literal interpretation for which it was designed for.

What the actual F is “elastic interpretation”.

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