.. a person's personality is like a leopards spots--u cannot change a leopards spots--the personality is given to u at birth--that said, huawei is an unusual company by most standards--
The success of Chinese telecom giant Huawei is an epitome of China40 years of reform and opening-up, without which the company wouldn't be what it is today.
We can not use Chinese Citizens, to blackmail China. It’s a crime, it’s unAmerica . This President tyrannical and barbaric tactics. This is not making America great again.
4 more years of Trump and there will be nothing left of the American democracy, it will be a nation similar to contemporary theocracies.
Is the United States now in the business of holding hostages for ransom? I thought that was the MO of crime cartels. Trump really needs to keep his official duties apart from how he conducts his business dealings.
I posted this one week ago, saying Trump will release Huawei CFO and today he said he will do it. So Trump asked Canada to extradite her and to then release her. It was a trap. This guy doesn’t respect anything. He is anti-democracy.
Make the savagery of Wild Wild West rules again.
And that I said it one week ago. I knew this lawless president will use and violate bilateral agreements. “The greatest democracy in the world”. Remove democracy and insert banana republic. Trump empowering dictatorships faster than the speed of light.
SHAMEFUL
So realDonaldTrump is now Judge, Jury, & Executioner for a trade deal ? Who will be next, this is HUMAN TRAFFICKING. If someone is to be extradited that is all together different. TYPICAL TRUMP CRIME ! ! !
Another disgraceful chapter in the Trump Presidency.
She is being held in Canada. Trump is not the president od Canada.
Hostage for negotiations.
American executives who live or travel overseas beware! You are all now potential bargaining chips in an escalating trade war. 😱
So should other countries just arrest us to get what they want from the U.S.? How is this okay?
Thanks realDonaldTrump for all that Canada did and still does for the U.S. You have managed to screw yet another country.
If ever there was proof she is a hostage
It's Canada that arrested her. This financial motive of the US should be enough to satisfy Canada to release her and let her fly back to China
Really? realDonaldTrump You pulled Canada into this, 2 of our ppl have been jailed in retaliation. JustinTrudeau you should let her go and disengage from this US mess/Trump game. Trump doesn't even stand with the US
Can we start by offering them Trumps kids?
Maybe we don’t have all the story here! I don’t know why anyone would go along with Trump’s gross behavior. chrislhayes
And we let Trumo stay in the WH?!
Canada seems to be a part of USA, because US leader talks on its behalf.
So...she's a hostage?
OMG! What a dumbass. Does Trump not have anyone to advise him on trade? Oh wait He doesnt listen. Huawei should had been released already.
Since when do we use people as currency...oh yea we have human trafficker sitting in the Oval office..I forgot we're no longer the shining light on the hill
Is this considered as human trafficking?
This is not how diplomacy is done. This is how WARS are started.
In a hotel, a quiet hotel Meng Wanzhou sleeps tonight. In a hotel, a quiet hotel Meng Wanzhou sleeps tonight. Huawei, Huawei, Huawei, Huawei, Huawei, Huawei, Huawei!
Trump is a mob boss, a criminal. That's what he's showing here.
🤔where is Canada SOVEREIGNTY?Shitty satellites of the filthy empire
Here is how a democracy behaves... Kidnap for randsom...
This sounds like something a mob boss would say.
This is awful. He doesn’t give one bit of thought to what comes out of his mouth.
I wish he didn't use this tactics for signing a new deal on nuclear weapons
So,he admits her arrest was a part of the trade war.
macronphobe
Is that legal?
He's emulating North Korea.
So we're taking hostages now as a tool for a trade deal...? Really!! Sets quite the precedent for Americans traveling abroad for business. Idiot.
Beginning to look like a hostage situation. Or blackmail.
This may get her released on grounds of being a politically motivated prosecution... Trump opens mouth, inserts foot.
only different about the true story...now we knew it
American business executives are now rethinking their travel plans. As usual, Trump doesn't think that moves like this will bring retaliations.
emm
So the US takes human hostages now?
Canada has Huawei. Trump cant trade someone he doesn't even have.
Wow...we have reached a whole new level of disgraceful crazy....
Wait; so he’s basically holding her hostage
Canada will do the right thing and let her go!
The invisible hand of the market
Smh. Trump is such an idiot. He violated the same rules during his campaign with VJB the Russian bank
Form of Human Trafficking
OMG! Isn’t this extortion?
Really bad idea. Really bad.
Soooo, she's a hostage in an extortion plot? K.
And Canada succeeded in getting into a serious hissy fit with China over Trump's political hostage. Too bad we can't just remove ourselves from anything that has to do with the Trump including USMCA until he disappears in two years.
Since when does the United States kidnap people?
Blackmail?
Everything and everyone is monetized by Trump. What’s in Trump’s wallet?
That is a very stupid thing to say. First of all it wasn't Trump's decision to arrest her, but US and Canadian law enforcement and intelligence that responded to an arrest warrant over charges from prior to Trump presidency 2nd it's really not Trump's call, but judicial branch's
So, like... we kidnapped her for ransom?
So,,,he had her arrested so he could have better leverage on a trade deal? When did the US become a third world country?
So now the Chinese begin arresting some American chips for themselves, to bargain?
The new policy of U.S: Whatever is good for the “country” is the best action, laws? Forget about it.
Jesus.. we’re srsly letting this happen? Why isn’t this a bigger story in the MSM?
Finally all the efforts worked for achieving legal, free, equal state is destroyed by this leader.
We cannot be arresting people to do trade... really?
This is MBS behavior. And if the USA follows it, it will spread throughout the world like a pandemic. Our moral authority is rapidly dying. Trump is Caligula. With the incestuous royal family, the Bannons and Millers. And the shadowy Senate. Russel Crow where are you?
Well Trump kidnapped kids, a CEO isn't much of a stretch
Your 'deal'? Sounds like extortion, but I'm not a lawyer.
I think the proper term is ‘ransom’
Sounds like Mo Dewji's episode. How disgraceful for 'big headed 'cliques .
Bullying and blackmail. The Trump negotiating style.
That was obvious...
...what the fuck. It's one thing to capture someone who is dangerous to the us but to capture someone and use them to make a trade deal happen is deplorable.
This is what terrorists do.
Trump you are not in a show you are just as bad as china saying this.
What the actual fuck.
This is not right !!!.unless you agree with Machiavelli and 'The end justify the means'
This is frightening. Is there a bottom for this administration?
You call that a hostage.
So now you’re holding people as hostages now? Shameless
Don the Con is going to start a real war with China if he keeps up with this asshat style of governing. Arresting business people & holding them hostage? might as well bring along a bone saw. Arrest trump & try him for treason already. He is a danger to the whole world.
This man is unbelievably sick in the head. He doesn't think or behave like a responsible President...more like a mob boss ordering a hit job.
We Are Destroying Our Country And Everything We Stand For As A Model Of Democracy Trump Has Destroyed Our Country
We take hostages now? Wow.
criminal justice system is not a negotiating tool.
As an Chinese, Im not surprised US government doing bad things to others they dont like, but so stupid!!! BTW no evidence on huawei is spying US nor fraud. By not trading with Iran is US law, she is Chinese you cant use on her nor huawei. US government is a joke
If she was poor and in a cage he wouldn’t even be paying attention!!
You are being used by DonTheCon JustinTrudeau
This is China's wheelhouse. If Donny thinks he can win the 'disappearing' game, he's not only insane, but blatantly risking American lives. Nothing new, but these would-be hostages are his peers. Top execs traveling abroad.
As a Canadian, this whole charade is unsettling
Canadian is shit! Hahah
I can’t believe what I am reading, since when do we use human beings as bargaining chips to gain economic benefits. TrumpIsDangerous
But Trump told us that trade talks and kidnapping were TWO separate things! Unpossible!
This stems from a 2013 case.... why was she detained in 2018? There’s got to be more to this.
TheArtOfTheDeal - Political Blackmail - by .realDonaldTrump
So realDonaldTrump wants China to kidnap Jared Kushner for negotiation leverage?
Trump willing to sell Justice for the highest bidder in yet another situation! If “Chiner” agrees to a trade deal Trumpnsays HE WILL INTERVENE IN HER CRIMINAL TRIAL?
Please don't intervene our independent judicial system.
WTF, taking of hostages? trump gop canada usa china Huawei
aiww He deliberately kidnapped her and ask China for a ransom?!
If Trump holds someone against their will and trades the for economic advantage, how is that not kidnapping? askpreet PreetBharara
JUST WOW...from my perspective, realDonaldTrump in saying this has admitted she was taken as a hostage in the Trade War.
Wow! So now we’re trading actual human beings?
So we're taking hostages now. Super.
Surprise! Surprise! What did you expect?
I cannot see how Canada can now extradite if the President says she could be a bargaining chip in trade dispute rather than receive a fair trial for the charges. huawei
What the actual heck? Hostage negotiation as a trade deal?
What a ridiculous thing to say likely endangering Americans abroad. Isn't that the 1 job of the president? Protecting Americans at home and abroad?
That makes me recall that they considered washing powder liquid as chemical weapon.😂😂😂😂😂
This is a big problem for Trump and his administration. They wil pay a high price for doing this.
What a dumbass!!! We know this had better not be true, but could you imagine now countries arresting a Taylor Swift (trumped up charge) or Ivanka Trump (a real reason) and then saying let's trade?!! 45 is unfit is not a joke!!! He makes the world a less safer place!!
realDonaldTrump is a bullying IDIOT, not a competent occupant of the Oval Office.
Trump’s continuing to work his way through the Authoritarian’s Handbook.
I'm surprised that the US president declared they don't hold foreigners for wrong doing but for business negotiation... just when I thought to myself I should trust the legal system.
That’s horrible
Very very dangerous for Canada to play Trump's political cop...
So just another political game individual1 is playing
Kidnapping for ransom is how America rolls now.
JustinTrudeau is taking prisoners to ransom on behalf of trump, wow
'' We arrest your citizens, you arrest ours, in the end we negotiate '' -did I get that right? It must be this what it's meant when they're talking about creating new opportunities for business. No doubt capitalism is very inventive 😂
There is no bottom with realDonaldTrump
Oh my!
Is taking hostages covered in Art of the Deal?
Huawei helped the Communist Party establish a network firewall, block free information, and create a large number of surveillance devices to monitor the Chinese people. It traded with anti-human organization Iran to help Iran's dictatorship. Destroy Huawei! Save civilization!
This is apparent evidence that this is rule by law and Meng is just hostage of political. So extradition should not happen!
Trudeau:' We are a country of an independent judiciary…… without any political involvement or interference' Trump: are you sure?
I hope it's not true either! That would mean people are just commodities to Trump. I must say that wouldn't surprise me. He values money &power over human lives.
No. No, it's not.
Trade war is a damn fiasco!:(
He learned the 'Art of the Deal' from Erdogan
I don't know why you don't is. From the first second when Meng was arrested, we chinese had known that Meng became a hostage for trade war. You just know now?
Imperialist Human Trafficking 2.0
暴言
He’s.....taking....hostages
could you guys leave mr.realDonaldTrump alone? let's talk about canadian boy JustinTrudeau : Trump: jump out of the window! Trudeau: which floor!!!
Is this a blackmailing !
Kidnapping isn’t a policy? Who knew?
Very subtle man...!
Ridiculous to arrest someone from a company because the company allegedly broke some agreements:and to keep hostage to top it all off! Sue the company, take legal actions, but stop these mafia practices. America & Canada going to far.
I wonder it's a fake news, unless Trump speaks himself at medias.
The Mafiosi is alive and kicking Evil Empire indeed
If Trump does make this plan, he must step down and it is best to be impeached. Such remarks have shamed the United States!
As a Somali,i must blame the American government. you must have our core technology, and use it to deal with chinese
Short sighted n profoundly ignorant of Trump.
I really hope that Canada dismisses all charges against her citing Trump's statement and saying international law prevents them from being an accessary to a literal hostage taking.
You misspelled “warcrime”
🤦🏽♀️
Well he support regimes that kill reports
Is this not hostage taking for ransom then? If she committed a crime, bring her to justice but you can’t trade her off for deals with China. What’s going on?
The trump presidency will end with the whole family eating in a restaurant with “don’t stop believing” on the juke box and then ...
So, again, what did Trump give North Korea in exchange for the 3 hostages?
Did trump just propose a hostage taking?
That is real mafia! How on earth US choose this president?
Disgusting. Kidnapping & blackmail for trade advantages? USA is now behaving like a rogue nation.
How is this not a crime?
1. Trump is proving that she is wanted for political reasons, so there is a high probability that she will not be extradited (political offenders cannot extradite); 2. If one is not extradited, Trump will not Will it be impeached and jailed for interfering with justice?
U.S.A can always arrest anyone anywhere in the world even for a flimsiest of accusation..destroyed Yemen, Afghanistan ,Iraq, Libya, etc yet the no.1 human rights advocates .there’s no country like US. Ridiculous.
JustinTrudeau, fix this embarrassment to all Canadians and release her immediately.
I know firsthand that Huawei, a company built and run by a former PLA intelligence officer, has engaged, no doubt continues to engage in industrial espionage and IP theft around the globe. But holding his daughter hostage in a trade negotiation? Only Trump is that stupid.
It's no better than a kidnapper
im1013 It amounts to little more than a kidnapping.
China claims it's a 'kidnap' and that makes sense now.
This is wrong
If true, this is a SHAMEFUL new low for the United States.
I guess China will arrest American business people as retaliation. POTW prisoners of trade war
Gangsta nation
I suppose this is exactly why he wasnt told prior to her arrest, and bc he obviously wouldve tipped off the chinese government. This dude is such a complete incompetent tool!
Funny how TreasonousTrump and the CorruptGOP colluded with the Russians is suddenly concerned with the Chinese spying on the USA toddlerPOTUS Chevy Christmas
That's not up to US. Unless Trump can give Canada an incentive.
Today, Canadian court granted Meng Wanzhou CDN$10,000,000 bail for release on condition she surrender her passports, wear a GPS tracker, be under time curfew at 1 of her 2 homes in Vancouver with 24/7 security at her cost.
Does he say that in the article?
The absolute worst.
OMG I cannot believe Trump said the release of Huawei CFO could be part of a broader trade deal with China. This is a new low and setting a very dangerous precedent in world trade
That’s what you get for electing a so called business man who constantly defrauded honest businesses and went bankrupt how many times Surprise, surprise.
Please stop posting his lies as headlines. Responsible journalism requires a little restraint on bullshit
WTH
Sounds like Kidnapping and then Ask for Ransom. Do these things exist between Nations ? I have heard of Prisoners Swap.
Translation: Trump kidnapped Huawei’s CFO.
maddow
This is exactly how Putin does it. Hostages, extortion,blackmail..
So the US government is essentially holding a Chinese citizen hostage while chastising Russia for abusing Interpol?
Meanwhile the Canadian : wtf
Those were not his words
Amazed that so many choose this situation, run by security agencies, to start believing Trump today.
Canada needs to call in USAmbCanada for clarification. Canada is a country where rule of law reigns. If US is simply gaming the system set Huawei CFO free. Sad that US is now an unreliable neighbour and can not be considered an honest broker.
linda_ldfriesen
Can’t wait till the PLA is knocking on the White House’s door
So Trump got Canada to jail this woman so he can use her as a hostage in a trade war? Umm, let me ask this, is the US going to survive Tangerine Man? Are the Canadians letting the Chinese in through the Dakota's as we speak?
No way Canada is going to extradite her now. Extradition of hostages for political deals is something Trump may do but it is not something Canadians can stomach.
Trade Terrorism, this is surely getting out of hand.
wtf? If she is criminal, why release her?
Wow, so Trump is now taking hostages as pawns?
Trump is making this like a blackmail.
Are we negotiating with ransoms now? WTH!
如果川普的确怎么打算,则必须下台,最好被弹劾下台。如此言论令美国蒙羞!
Isn’t this like a mafia kidnapping someone for ransom? The only loser of this cross-border kidnapping is the stupid Canadians, who plays complicit but finds itself the one betrayed.
Markets are going to love this tomorrow....
This is an insane statement.
haha Canada
If she is being sought for political reasons in order to be bartered for a trade deal, that should void the extradition. Canada should not complicit in a hostage taking. cdnpoli
China been saying this was political. I noticed the US tv media was more on political side. Now Trump. Everything goes back to him. The appearance of the rule of laws is tarnished. Canada just looked douched.
At some point it's up to us, the people, to take a stand against this madness
in exchange for more Trump brand protections? What? Do we negotiate away criminal prosecutions as part of trade deals? Is that wise, treating US justice as a bargaining chip in trade?
Time will tell if this is a wise move as Canada has chose to help US at the expense of its relations with China.
This is insane. They have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Reminder: This isn't how it works.
America will eventually be wiped out by China
Hostage Trade
Is this a real story?
Reuters is a mouth of CCP now, can we believe?
With Trump everything is a deal to be made. No principles will interfere if he can twist it so he can call it a 'win'.
This is bs. The US tries to strong-arm China and trade, losing terribly, so now Canada holds a executive for them on a 'fake' extradition order. BS. Let DT deal with his own crap. Let her go so China will release our citizen.
This company is in trouble over the 5G in many other countries including Australia, New Zealand we should all pay close attention to this. It has nothing to do with Trump
Judicial independence 🤔
🤦🏻♂️
Trump will say USA had nothing to do with this.
Sounds like fake news. Do you have the video or audio?
There is one actual hostage taken so far, the Canadian in China, in retaliation for due process taking place in B.C.
Because everyone knows she will be released anyway, she is not just a businesswoman, also posterity of politician . But Trump might unawares of network consensus warfare was coming from China.
How can she be extradited after this statement? I doubt Cdn courts want to be part of a hostage taking.
Bypassing the sanctions against Iran is breaking international laws.
Don Jr is in Canada now. Should we take him hostage and demand alum tariffs be removed? DJT will understand the logic. Asking for a friend.
Why is there not ONE WORD about realDonaldTrump in this editorial where you tweeted out that Trump said that release of CFO could be included in trade deal? Where's is the editorial on this? A link please...
Making her a hostage? China is hardly going to like that one.
JFC
Jesus. He really is both stupid and evil. Republicans?
The charges are likely totally legit. It’s just that Trump has finally taken note. And when it comes to respect for the rule of law he and the dictators in Beijing have much in common.
Isn’t this kind of like the Turk that flynn wanted to kidnap and give back to Turkey for a few million Good god...they don’t even try to hide it anymore. 😑🙄
Her lawyer must be smiling. That’s it - Canada cannot extradite her to US - because it appears it’s really not about Iran breaking trade sanctions after all
Are we really trading people as pawns in trade deals?
So she's a hostage? Great. I'm proud Canada is a part of this.
This make a precedent that what will the other country do to US.
The US is now in the hostage business.
kwetoday And don't forget. The TPP was already signed so there's already a TRADE DEAL in place.
kwetoday Has nothing to do with Trump nor the USA - She was released on Bail from a CANADIAN prison after being arrested ' in Canada'. This boys ego has no limit.
Is there no one at GOP that understands what a spectacularly stupid & dangerous fool realDonaldTrump is?
justice independence????😂😂😂
REPUBLICANS need to wake up.
Dirty play by Trump. Using Chinese nationals as hostages to benefit his agenda is something a rogue state would do. I can't believe Canada is helping him with this. So ashamed of my government. Don't human rights that Trudeau keeps bragging about apply for the Huawei CFO?
...Trump isn't even mentioned in the article.
So, we're taking hostages now?
When did Trump say this? Source please
It seems Mrs. Meng has been in his pocket.
stupid hostage!
Would hate to be Tim Cook on his next trip to China.
The linked story doesn't mention Trump at all. When did he say this?
So did China release that Canadian citizen in exchange for her being allowed bail? Asking for a friend
routers,you are literally putting words into Pres. Trump's mouth,why?
Shes a POTW (prisoner of trade war)
Republicans are responsible for this. I hope the Chinese know it.
So she is a hostage
Now the USA uses human beings to get deals? Is it, I’ll trade you a CFO/CEO for a Tariff deal? So, did she actually do something that breaks the law or are we just grabbing people like China does?
Captured by Canada. Release by US. Canada got played again
I seriously hope this is not true. Can you imagine? Using prisoners as pawns for a TRADE deal? With a country that imprisons dissidents, including US citizens, on a regular basis? It would put every single American residing in or visiting China in danger.
Phil_Mattingly This is in incredibly un-American Using law enforcement to jail private sector individuals from another country to get our way in a trade dispute is what dictatorships do Really scary for every American who travels abroad, particularly after the murder of JKhashoggi
Does he feel dumb that they already released her on bail? In all sense of meaning, she's free.
Human rights and justice prevailed👍👍👍
Where’s the part where 'Trump says release of Huawei CFO could be part of a broader trade deal with China?' I think Reuters readers would like to see a source for the supposed EXCLUSIVE mentioned in this tweet, but nothing supports that. Looking for facts here, please deliver!
Really, we’re holding hostages! This is how Iran and North Korea behave.
来,说说人权?说说司法独立?
I would think this bombast will have implications for Meng's bail hearing, ongoing in Vancouver at this very moment.
Canadian will love what he side.
Canada has granted Huawei CFO bail while a Canadian has been detained in China; meanwhile, Trump continues steel and aluminium tar.
No Canadian judge will hand her to the US after hearing this glorious announcement
It is incredible EEUU have such a president .
We knew it's a kidnapping
alps_xing
He takes hostages? Why not. He tortures people seeking asylum, puts babies in prison...... he’s capable of anything. He’s cornered. Scared ..... he wants a war
1stKiersten I can tell you right now he had nothing to do with this, in fact crown prosecutors failed to convince a a judge of the case against her in the USA. And that the USA has not filed a formal extradition request yet.
Wouldn't that be considered human trafficking?
Good for him,
WTF?
There’s no broader trade deal. This is something to benefit trump and only trump.
That is USA.More ridiculoud:Use laundry powder as evidence of biological weapons! Destroy a country without Weapons of mass destruction!
Donald is setting her free 'cos he wants to ensure a Chinese check for his City Lido project in Jakarta.
KatCapps Or not
Now we know the arrest of CFO was illegal, and Canada is an accomplice in this illegal detention
but... there's no mention of that in the linked story.
Trump is afraid of MengWanzhou case is weakening Xi's power , thus he will not get the deal with Xi in 90 days.
So Trump is now holding a hostage to negotiate a trade deal? Well, it’s nothing new to him. Kids were put in cages to promote immigration policy
Blink!
Phil_Mattingly Making foreign policy by trading people? What is wrong with this guy?
Fuck. That means Lump is using her as bait. Essentially, 'Gimme what I want so I look good, and Ill hand her over despite furious protest against it'.
Fake news, where and when Trump said this?
Story does not contain trump message at all
Truly, this fake news. Trump has no role in this. He does not control the DOJ...because of fake Mueller. People are so stupid to fall for this fake news.
Tariff hostage ? What next Kids tariffhostage tariffprisoner trump huawei China
So this was all a political stunt perpetrated by Donald Trump because he has poor negotiating skills and could only make a deal by blackmail.
Actually Trump wants Canada to arrest and hold her hostage. Even smarter
So apparently the US is simply kidnapping people for leverage. Because if she violated the law Iike asserted then just letting her go is not an option.
We're holding hostages now? Perfect. Or rather Canada is on our behalf ().
JustinTrudeau Just release her fully. Don’t play Trump’s game and take her hostage as a political prisoner.
Funny. I don't see Trump mentioned in this article at all? Why the heading? Click bait? Why did the deep state arrest the Chinese executive while literally speaking and negotiating with leader of China? evil
For fucks sakes a Canadian was arrested in China in retaliation. Who knows what his conditions are.
Fuck
Jeezus this is awful
OMG shut up realDonaldTrump !!!
Outrageous. Since when do we hold people hostage for tarriffs? This is America not Game of Thrones.
Virou sequestro? Com pedido de resgate? Vai dar m*****
What? This demands some context. Is realDonaldTrump actually saying that he will not enforce the law against a prominent foreign business leader in exchange for trade concessions?
He’s so full of shit.
so they have arrested someone to use as leverage over a trade deal thats normal ...
That kind of sounds like extortion.
OMG. America now arrests international persons to use as pawns in trade deals? What have we become? How pathetic are our leaders?
oy,crazy
WTH?
Why is Canada cooperating with this?
Oh lordy...this is the wrong way to use the law if true. May explain why the US, according to the MengWanzhou bail coverage, has not yet submitted documents for her extradition. 60 days to do so. China
If the Chinese kidnap Trump they can keep him. We’re not paying 1 penny to get him back.
So, Meng is now a political prisoner. 🤨
This is a bad look for an independent judiciary system. It makes us look like took her hostage
I hope the tension will decrease between US & China soon. 🇺🇸🌹🌹🌹🇨🇳
So the trade war claims its first hostage.
So the real reason for her arrest comes out.
Is she hostage Trump thinks this is how he is going to influence China ? Lol 😂
We're taking hostages now? Sad!
Whatever he's doing will benefit him first, then maybe the rest of us. By accident.
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