| Zondo finds from the evidence relating to TNA and ANN7 that it is clear that Jacob Zuma was close to the Guptas and took an interest in their"ventures".
The Commission further recommends that the SABC institute proceedings to recover the R4.2 million it spent on broadcasting the Guptas' TNA breakfast briefings. Zondo found that “there is no doubt” that former president Jacob Zuma wanted an Inter-Ministerial Committee that was looking at the closures to “come to the assistance of his friends, the Guptas”. “I have concluded [former] President Zuma and Mr Zwane misused their public power in an attempt to achieve a benefit for the Guptas, not because their case was a deserving one… but because of the power and influence which the Guptas were able to wield in the South Africa of those times.
"He as President, abused his office for his own benefit, that of his son and that of his friends, the Guptas. "How did the country end up having as President someone who would act the way President Zuma acted? Someone that could remove as good a public servant as Mr Themba Maseko from his position just so that he could put someone else into that position who would cooperate with the Guptas and give them business.
Njenje handed all of this information over to the Hawks and the NPA, but was instructed by then minister Cwele to halt the investigation which was"president Zuma's decision".Zondo found that it was possible had the Hawks investigation proceeded, that Fraser may never have been appointed director general years later.31m ago| "I find the evidence of Ms Muthambi unconvincing to say the least.
He said of the Nulane project:"The contract was irregularly awarded without any competitive bidding process and appears to have been designed primarily as a device to funnel Free State public funds into the Gupta Enterprise. "This led to the awarding of a vast array of contracts and the payment of billions of rand to entities paying kickbacks to, or controlled by, the Gupta Enterprise." | Chief Justice Raymond Zondo has recommended that a commission of inquiry be appointed to investigate why Prasa was allowed to slide into “almost total ruin”, who should be held accountable for that and who could have benefitted from the “unacceptable state of affairs” at the state-owned entity.
Finally
Let's vote on the vote as we should in a fkn democracy
So in a low education country the president will be the one with most populist slogans?
South Africa e worse this day Le sassa tota ke batla go ba Isa ko state capture everybody 350decline bathong
Truely a leader is a dealer in hope,wise advice from chief Justice Raymond Zondo
Why would a Chief Justice make such recommendations? Remember this would mean the amendment of the Constitution and yet a Chief Justice utters such
Directly by whom?
People who pay taxes should be the only ones who are allowed to vote.. simple
He probably has a candidate already🤔
Is Zondo a population now?🤔
We need put that to a vote… CJ Zondo is not god of South Africa ….
Yes electoral system must change, its long overdue, ANC has messed up our beloved country, their cadres are not committed to serve the nation, they want positions to enrich themselves
So people are attacking Zondo for doing his work, the terms of reference asked him for recommendations. We should be happy, we have another pandemic waiting in line, DD Mabuza proudly brought to us by the ANC. He wouldn’t stand a chance if we didn’t have this party democracy.
Niyanya nina
I don't understand why we have not done this earlier. But I'm glad someone in power finally thought of it. Let's find an actual leader for this Country.
Who said the ruling party is going to win election in 2024? Uyaphapha yazi uZondo!
Is the Ruling Party not elected directly or am I missing something
Yes
While i support the idea but this is an overreach
That will be a step in the right direction as the president will directly be accountable to the electorate. It may also curb corruption & stop the Black elite along with their pals from milking the state coffers.
kitmokoka Zingena kanjani lezi zincomo manje?
Patrice Motsepe
What does the constitution of this country says about that. If it not in the constitution why would a whole Chief Justice Recommend something unconstitutional? Please educate me.
Makayonya
Babbe umzansi ngobhongwane sizwa ngabo nje mihla yonke😂
news yu can easily temper the results...makes sense
I've been voting and hoping for change but there isn't,if it takes us forward I'll happily embrace change
Yes. These can work
Thts the sort of thing tht many South Africans won't go for is choosing the president directly.. in politically uneducated south African minds it's better to allow self-serving ppl to make the decisions ..
This s excellent news if it ever sees the light of day
This hippo must never..try n find short cuts here, He must tell the DA to win the Elections no short cuts
Udakiwe..no short cut for DA here they must win Elections
Good idea. What is wrong with that? That is the norm in Africa and around the world. This nonsense of 3000 delegates choosing a president for the whole country is rubbish. Zondo is spot on.
That is one of the most important recommendations Zondo has made. Imagine ANC recalling CR and replacing him with Ace right now.
I agree
I agree including the cabinet because it is not only the president who is the problem.
Totally agree with that one!
Malema will definitely be the president
errolbsk He's aware that his party wouldn't vote for him , well he's wasting time because if that becomes a new law we gonna vote for former CJ to be the president. Zondo is a politician.
Why Does Zondo say that, how did he get to that conclusion. Most South Africans are suffering from information depravation ! The majority of the voters are they privy to the information that he bases his recommendations
Mogoeng dd warm us about the capture of state, Lena le masepa lena🤦
I think we will have to change the electoral system first as it's enshrined in our constitution. If that succeed the Buffalo will win hands down🤣
In a corrupt country like this? Never. And even if Piet van der Merwe is the most honest and righteous person he will never be elected cos majority of black people will not vote for a white or coloured person.
Absolute nonsense!
I am behind him
Not sure why this was part of Zondo commission Can anyone illuminate !
So true.... we wouldn't be stuck with Cyril is this was implemented early... look now eish
Ake nisyeke ngoZondo please
RiaMoholobela Ha! Something tells me Zondo already knows that someone will be rejected by the branches at the next elective conference.
just a recommendation...it dont change jack!
This is giving republic VS democratic vibes
Or we should have our Head of state seperate from our head of Government President Prime Minister system and have seperate elections for both like France or Germany that's a good idea one man should not have that much power over us
Not just that. Every municipal district must elect a mayor and an MP to represent them in Parliament. That ensures that the MP's in Parliament know they're there because of the people not cos of the party. Things would soon change
Masepa hae
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This will be great,however, it will constitutional process The proportional representation system does not allow South Africans to elect their President. Voting for a party system is destructive
Uyahlanya
ANC won't allow that
🙏🙏🙏🙏, the sooner the better🙏
So basically by media since they will campaign for their candidate. South Africans believes the media like the Bible 🤩🤩😂
Nimtshele ukuthi uyanya um'sun'wakhe, ney' mpumulo ngathi unukelwa umdidi, tsek!
He's attacking the constitution
thenjwayo27 Ao Zondo 🤣🤣🤣
Ha
HEAR HEAR...
I agree with this.
Zondo is a tool, used to fight political battles.
Is that based on the investigation or it's an extrapolation?
That’s the only way for direct accountability, not mobster rule as it is now
Perhaps this is just trying so hard to bypass the political power, because his/their fav, has lost the grip within the organisation 🤷🏽♀️ or even trying to have a second plan just incase cometh the ANC 55th National Elective Conference, the delegates may prefer someone else⚫🟢🟡
jacquescupido12 _AfricanSoil MxolisiBob Here we go.See who reports it and number of retweets. One can deduce must have come a particular section of SA's population Adv Paul Pretorious belong to. More to Zondo commission than Chief Justice Zondo. CapeTalk tshepo_kgadima
😂😂😂 is that recommendation?
It's actually simple they should put a referendum on the same issue
They have given this thuma Mina judge too much airtime 🫵🏼
Agreed like in the states, you vote for the person
We have the right to who leads the country. Especially being stuck with the in line.
Zondo learnt from anc administration to do & say things we didn't mandate of them
Including the Chief Justice position. Soze kalok
ElanaBrown Very hold recommendation, now we must put parliament under pressure to implement this
The power of the ANC in parliament needs to be cut down in 2024. They use their numbers to crush important issues like holding people accountable.
Not a bad recommendation, I support the idea.
For a nation as developed as SA I’m shrouded to think why they have still gone on with the British electoral kind of system… A president’s loyalty must be to the people and not the party, that’s why SA since Mbeki keeps on getting short changed with the quality of leaders
Democracy is maturing and or advancing
So he accepts that ANC wappps captured state
I would also love that. Let the country president be accountable to the nation not a segment there of. Let them be grilled by citizens not party members. Good idea that.
Makes perfect sense ….
By who
We should demand a referendum on this rather than leave to crooked politicians
Constitutional court Chief Justice too must be elected by the public.
Hence we have got Nhlanhla Lux on the streets he's being groomed for the position.
mangase senze i-example ngo zondo, u-cr engaphaphama🙏🏽
So they can easily control him without any interference, nice try Hippo
Zondo came last in the interview to be chief justice. This is what you get when you hire failures.
I think most of us would welcome the recemmendations, we need to elect our president, not this thing of having stupid presidents like Zuma and Ramaphosa imposed on us by the ANC
indeed 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
So that capitalist keep ruling the country ? We need Radical economic change
Great news for SA.
That makes zero sense. Parties select their presidential candidate. Unless Zondo wants to abolish political parties and let people contest as independent candidates.
They want their businessmen to rule the country forever. Motsepe is next😎😎😎.
zondo is talking rubbish.
That is long overdue.
This will allow the DA's failed experimental project, Maimane, to try his luck without the handlers who would later reveal him as a failed experiment.
Well guess Pres. Zuma is coming back.
Let’s not underestimate the stupidity of black people. We’ll still vote for the corrupt.
They know how to shift the post, the media will decampaign the one the establishment don't want and praise the one they like. South Africa does not have an independent media for such election, look what they do to EFF when elections are nearby.
Ok. I nominate John dobson
Chief Justice must also be elected directly
Now they can buy the presidents directly cutting out the middle man ...Political parties.
kabelodick He's only reminding us that according to Democracy it says the people will Govern, the people elect their own leader not given a leader,
This is absolutely good recommendation not a few comrades deciding our fate/thru party system/ We absolutely deserve constituency based representation that we can hold accountable
Zondo is over stepping his boundry 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Interesting, but as citizens how do we recall non-performing president s 89(1)(c) and how do we prevent abuse of a motion of no confidence s 102(1), also imagine 50 rep from political parties + 200 independents gunning for the presidency … the ballot🙈 US system is different
Pluse a 3 year election cycle
This is The WMC plan from the start Ramaphosa's job was to destroy ANC Afterwards they going to implement this and ANC will surely Die a painful death
Directly by whom?
So Zondo can recommend changes to Constitution but Public Protector can't ?
Haai nee vok, Banana republic
but this was never his to pronounce of the commission was not a commission into electoral reform the CJ is pronouncing on something he was not tasked with and it was not his term of reference.
The EFFSouthAfrica is here, it's over!
What is Zondo? A political analyst or a judge ?
What difference wil it make kganthe? Zondo wa phapha straight
He's right... Imagine Malema being a president
Nobody takes Zondo seriously PhalaPhalaFarmGate
Paving the way for Patrice Motsepe
Who the hell is Zondo actually
So that he is going to be chosen by CR handlers 😂😂😂🤦🏽
Zondo need to know his place and job description uyaphapha🤞
He will not win in taking the power from the people the majority. He's mad . Democracy rules.
Remember when the Public Protector made a recommendation about the mandate of the Reserve Bank? What did the courts say about it?
this is right -people must choose
Zondo Wil not last that office, can you imagine the same judge elected by a ruling party 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ramaposa was Deputy President 2014 to 2018 ANC Head of Candre Deployment 2012 to 2017 and yet,... Hay Hay cut 😂🤣🤣🤣😂
Zondo tginks he has all the power in the universe 🤣🤣
ladyfireonice What people never understood about Colonialism is that: When a country is colonised, the citizens live a life of Colonizers that is lived by the Imperial country. And once freedom is given, it goes back to its original state. In SA, we are still to experience Tribalism. It's fact
Lol that’s stupid if we do that we will have the same situation we have in municipalities. The party president will appoint a president just like regional chairpersons appoint mayors so that they can be remote controlled
please 😏
Sounds like cyril's bosses are afraid of the conference👀
Now the best candidate can be elected from the population
Sounds like a good plan
Fellow South Africans we are in a mess. Animal farm plays itself.
Isn’t that how it currently works anyway? The pArliament elects the president. Any member of the parliament is eligible for presidential candidacy
DanniTwiet Yes!
That is the best move going forward Good job CJ Zondo
Amen🙏
1. Professionalise Cabinet. 2. Drop posts of deputy president and deputy ministers. 3. Make it mandatory by law for public office-bearers and their families to use the services of public (state) hospitals and public (state) schools. 4. No 'free/subsidised passes' on PRASA & SAA.
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He knows they’ll throw him out 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haibo he wants to amend the constitution now
It's because the PhalaPhalaFarmGate has enough stolen money for decades to buy anything
Words of Bra Stone are ringing in my ears now🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought that in a democratic state the principle of the separation of powers is sacrosanct.
Agree 100%. Why should the president be elected by 400 out of 65million people. Everyone should have a vote.
Now this is what we wanted, it must be extended to ministers and the so called Chiefs of staff
Absolutely as we are tired of ceding our power to elect the President to ANC branches that are easily bought by measly KFC two piece.
2 centre's of power
Jesus is not a temporary fix; the work that He does in the heart is permanent. A true relationship with Him guarantees a return of peace, joy, love and much more. All that you're searching for is in Him. tshabalala_moyo . Let's be mutual 💓 💖
Yebo Yesss
Kanti what is separation of powers (of the state)?
Ey Satafrikha, now that the tables have turned, they are changing the goal posts. Shemu. But this sounds like a good idea, but coming from bad people, ay I'm afraid. They're up to something.
Our Electoral system needs to be changed to constituency based where we will directly elect our parliaments and President. The one we have now we vote for the party then the part chooses who goes to parliament that's why we have a lot of dead wood MP's in parliament
That will be great
Also, this flag would’ve been dope this way without the blue. I’m just saying.
MsNtfulini Finally, we can actually have a say as the people of South Africa?😳 What a WOW!!!🥳 🎤'Freedom is coming tomorrow'🎤💃🥳💃🥳💃🥳💃😂
Abelungu bazoqeda nge MYANC mayingabhekile, Ramaphosa doesn’t care about the movement usebenzela abelungu!
Amen hope all parties agree on this, the masses must be given a chance to elect their president this practice is happening around the world, if you want to be president you sell yourself for three months to the people this party system ........neh
President of state is not elected by the ruling party, it’s MPs vote.
Asbonge
This Zondo guy is dangerous for our democracy
They are paving the way for the so called independent candidates like Ramaphosa
I'm also going to run for president I'm availing myself fellow citizens ✋🏾
Zondo o tsena kae?
What was the scope of this commission vele?
People who have a problem with this pronouncement should immidietly approach the court until concourt. This is democracy
Pure drunkenness OCJ_RSA If collectives fail then concentrate power to one person. Ramaphosation of the constitution. Independent strongmen only led to extreme polarisation to easily ignite civil war. Wisdom has left the country StateCaptureCom trying to sureup colonial legacy
Morena Zondo o nyaka go ntšha ditsotsi dijo ka ganong. Party system works for them ... Capture branch ...done!
Not only President .
This must start in 2024, thank you CJ and team. The 'brantshiz' will be very disappointed
Wa gafa zondo, that's not his territory; A president is elected this way bcos the so called constitution says so.
Uyanya shem!!! Nansi ingulube bo!!
'Their' vision 2030 will fail shem🤞🏾
Whaaaaaatt?!
Zondo must contest elections, win 2/3 majority and then change the constitution. No short cuts.
Let Zondo dig he's own hole shame. What evidence does he have to support that rubbish, we know whites want to rule again by any means necessary. There are no short cuts in Democracy. The WILL OF THE PEOPLE IS SUPREME!!!!!
Elected directly by the electorate or not doesn't matter if you have a corrupt attitude!
Abelungu sebefuna back umshini wabo😂😂😂
It’s called judicial overreach, this compromised Chief Justice must stay in his lane.
😂😂😂😂
Zondo o lastag
I wouldn't mind I'm tired of the ANC any solution will do, as bad as ramaphosa is if he succeeds in killing the ANC then he'll become my favourite
😂 😂 😂
This man is a full-blown politician. 🙊
Unukelwa yi recall 🤔 😂😂😂
The nigga knows he is out
Nayi mikhuba
Like the Americans. A showcase of democracy
Multimillionaires across the country
The Chief Justice of the Constitutional Court, without due constitutional processes, nor cabinet involvement, single handedly recommends a Presidential electoral law or Constitutional Amendment!! Is this guy a Constitutionalist? Is he even a judge?! This is a fraud!!
I second that move.
smoking weed every day
If this was the case right from the beginning, one man wouldn't have made it to the Union Buildings. This gives power to the voters and not factions. I support it
This needs to happen.
Agreed 100%.
Did he somehow mentioned anything about land, now that he wants to change how politics works
Vote for President along with Party?
So a CJ can recommend an amendment to the constitution, wasn't the PP vilified for suggesting something along those lines
Even though what he's saying I might agree with but he is too compromised to be uttering such
This is exactly what Malema was saying, descending to political arena. Can someone please remind Barry White he's a judge not a politician 🤦♂️
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Ayi. Sleep well people
But he's elected by Parliament
Over reaching, he wants to change the constitution
Isn't he stepping into the same arena they accused AdvBMkhwebane when she made her ABSA recommendations 🤔
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