B.C.'s alcohol abstinence policy for liver transplants discriminatory, UBCIC says

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The Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs has filed a human rights complaint over a policy requiring people to abstain from alcohol for six months in order to receive a liver transplant.

That BC Transplant policy was the subject of a similar complaint last year, but the complainant, David Dennis, died before he could see the case through., representing all Indigenous people who have been denied a transplant as a result of the policy.

"The complaint alleges that there is little or no scientific support for the abstinence policy, which puts the health of Indigenous persons at risk, potentially fatally, by delaying access to liver transplants and is an affront to their dignity, respect, and self-worth," it reads. The PHSA, which runs BC Transplant, said it won't comment on the case "out of respect for due process," but that it's committed to ensuring equity in health care.

PHSA also noted that BC Transplant removed the "absolute requirement" for liver recipients to abstain from alcohol for six months last year, in light of new clinical evidence, and said "no patients have been refused or removed from the transplant list for this reason alone."

 

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Why are ppl so entitled? Alcohol is not necessary for life.

So are the Chiefs saying their people are all drunks? Why would he discriminate against his own people like that?

This policy is to ensure that those who receive the livers will actually look after them after the transplant.

Why on earth would the medical profession give a new liver to a person who won’t even stop drinking for six months. Chances are they will just drink themselves to the same “Need another liver please place in time” GO HOME!!!

I'm sure abstaining from alcohol before a liver transplant is policy everywhere from what I understand. It doesn't matter who you are.

What a bunch of whiny stupid assholes.

If you can't quit drinking for 6 months to save your life..... Why do you think you deserve another liver to abuse🤦

Shit that is ease, if one want to live.

Maybe they should start to educate their ppl about alcohol abuse. If u can’t stop. U just die. It’s other ppl more important to try and save

And some judge will listen to this garbage

Are you joking?

Well, I reserve my right to leave my liver to an alcoholic or someone who will not appreciate it

This has nothing to do with race. Hate when people flash race card. This policy applies whether your blue black green yellow pink grey. Livers are in short supply and you want it to go to someone who will respect the gift that is helping to save their life. Period

This is move by the chiefs is not doing much to end the stereotypes of their people.

ToughLove. Safelives.

Pretty sure that is a requirement for everyone regardless of their culture 🙄

Nothing better to fight for, really?

Alcohol destroys the liver. So, they give you a liver so you can continue abusing the new liver which is a gift from someone. I personally believe that anyone who has abused their bodies with drugs, alcohol or smoking do not deserve these gifts of life.

They sure drink alot.

I guess they feel the same about lungs and smoking. How about the liver and lungs go to non drinking, smoking people.

🤔

Yet another reason to disband all Provincial Human Rights Codes, Commissions and Tribunals. They will probably win this case due to decisions based on Leftist ideology instead of common sense.

Now ask the same of smokers.

Yeah I get it we fucked over First Nations..this is fucking ridiculous. With a significant waiting list and you want drive thru service, yeah not supporting this one

Lol

😂

“The Provincial Health Services Authority also noted that BC Transplant REMOVED (emphasis mine) the 'absolute requirement' for liver recipients to abstain from alcohol for six months last year”......So if this is the case, why the complaint

Livers are precious resources. Why waste them on people who haven’t even quit drinking? Give a healthy liver to an alcoholic and they will just be back in 6 months for another one. This is regardless of race. Caucasian alcoholics shouldn’t get livers either.

Organ donors are at a premium. People die waiting for transplants. The rules apply to everyone. If it's a choice between a 40 yr. old alcoholic and a child or an 18 yr. old who has their life ahead of them, the latter 2 should get priority. Life isn't fair!

This is not racist!!!!! It’s a rule for EVERYONE and should be

My mother was told no more heart surgery if she kept smoking. I guess we should have filed a law suit. Not!

It’s not a human right to receive a new liver.

Is alcohol consumption now a hereditary right? Asking for a friend, who is an organ donor, and wants to help out a person in true need of a liver!!

Not all B.C. First Nations people are alcoholics, but some of the ones that are alcoholics, have liver prob;ems created by their alcoholism.

Alcohol-related deaths among First Nations in B.C. are a staggering five times higher than for other British Columbians, says a prominent First Nations doctor, who argues aboriginal leaders need to start working on an alcohol strategy to save lives.

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard so you can't drink alcohol for 6 months and you can't drink alcohol for a time after. That's so your body does not reject the transplant stupid You are just trying to destabilize the systems in place on the heals of criminal unrest.

Sad that people’s “leadership” is this ignorant and misguided. Are there not more pressing issues facing FN people these days? Maybe start working on the important stuff first and work yourself down to challenging transplant rules. Jesus!

Seriously? Why would this even be accepted by the court. F'n ridiculous.

You’ve got to be kidding me🙈

I think that's just standard liver transplant procedure

The Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs, your delusional. Why should a good liver go to an alcoholic? Alcoholism is a self-inflicted issue destroying Your liver and other organs. 6-months Alcohol free is standardise criteria World 🌎 wide For a liver transplant.

I didn’t know being an alcoholic was covered as a human right 😂 why am I learning this just now?

Omg we did it!!!...the human being has achieved a higher level of stupid. While back at the ranch we have now concluded that fixing stupid will never be reached. That confirms the we CantFixStupid

It’s proof you’re serious. Abstain or don’t get a transplant.

The sad part about the Chiefs filing the complaint is they are using our tax dollars to challenge a common sense and necessary policy to eventually receive a HEALTHY liver from a donor.

Sound stupid to me

You shouldn't be drinking period if you explode your liver, if you can't stop drinking you shouldn't have a liver wasted on you. This is just dumb.

Lmao

Sweet geezus....are these Chiefs for real Don’t they have other things to spend their money on....housing, drinking water etc.

If you can't control your booze you are not likely ready for the commitment of maintaining a transplanted organ.

... who is the one being racist here? suggesting this rule (which applies to everybody) is discriminatory means they assume first nations are heavy drinkers. way to go.

The gift of life from someone that was loved and cared about and you can’t stop drinking? This is NOT a race issue.

Indians

Idiots

It doesn’t matter who you are, the rule applies to everyone for liver and kidney transplant.

Is this a joke? Someone can’t quit drinking long enough for a liver transplant. What next are they going to ask them not to drink for drive over to hospital for transplant

Not unreasonable

Frank Gallagher.

Are you kidding me This rule is for EVERYONE, to say it’s unfair for indigenous is absolutely crazy! To tie this up in law courts at tax payers expense.... StopMisuseOfPower crazy

Everyone has to do it , to prove sobriety, other wise you waste a liver, first nation folks are no exception

They are Indians ! Are you kidding!

So the B.C. Union of Chiefs just called their own people drunks?

Is that requirement for everyone or just indigenous people?

This isn't discrimination. It's a standard applicable to all. I'm really, really tired of the race card being played for gratuitous reasons.

Lucky you get a new liver you ungrateful bastards.Maybe if you didn't drink you wouldn't need a new liver.

People should abstain from liquor for six months if they expect a liver transplant. I quit smoking so I can have my hip replaced. Is the plan to quiet drinking after the transplant

Did Twitter world not think that the”Indian chiefs” were going going to let the blm movement get all this new hype alone? Just wait until a current model Ford is a basic human right I live this shit daily, it’s a running joke among the common reserve folk

Doesn't this just play into the stereotype?

The policy is common sense.

The rule applies to everyone regardless of who you are so respect the rule , medical reasons exist

If you can’t stop drinking for 6 months, wouldn’t you ultimately destroy the new liver anyway. Shouldn’t there be a human rights complaint to make sure that doesn’t happen?

Lol, the union of bc Indian chiefs is drunk.

The “human right” is to give a liver to someone deserving. Someone who is NOT an alcoholic & not to someone who will quit drinking for 6 months to get another liver & then drink it to death either. There are others more deserving.

So... Indian communities physically cannot abstain from alcohol for more than 6 months.... And defunding the police benefits bipoc how exactly?....

These are the idiots holding up pipelines. People that think they should be able to drink while awaiting a liver transplant. Talk about entitlement

Slow clap👏👏

Hahaha I’ll trade you..”your” land For a new liver and 6 months of clean pee samples

Why not! after all these self entitled people are special! What a joke, all this does is open the door for more justifiable criticism! Just think of the poor individuals that followed the rules and gets screwed because of political correctness! Shame on you pathetic people!

If you've punched on liver due to over consumption of alcohol...it's likely you're going to punch another This is not an unreasonable ask Better to give to someone who is not going need another one in a year or so

Is this a joke?

We want a transplant just as long as we are not inconvenienced. If you can't take care of this liver why replace it with a new one.

Yes, and?

God know how hard it is not to be a Degenerate alcoholic for 6 months to save your life. fuckno FirstNations degeneratealcoholic FutureDarwinawardwinner

World is going to shit

If a non-native said or implied what the BC Indian Chiefs are implying, THEY would be the subject of a human rights complaint!

Livers are in short supply and they must go to candidates likely to keep them. It has nothing to do with human rights.

I would have to do exactly the same why is this discrimination

Sure, it’s your right to pollute a liver that someone who died gifted you for a second lease on life. Irresponsible addictive behaviour. Need to break the attitude and the cycle.

perrybellegarde is garbage human scum.

If you cant stay sober for 6 months, then there is no sense of getting a new liver and destroying that one as well. No rights issue here. Just common sense

Wait. What

These rules apply to everyone. Transplants are a gift. Your body has to be as healthy as it can be to be a successful recipient of any transplant.

Enforcing the stereotypes isn’t it

What the hell has our world come to? You find it a human rights violation that you can't drink for six months before receiving a liver transplant? Leave the livers for the ones that would do ANYTHING to survive, you don't deserve one.

It’s always been that way for anyone.

Since when is drinking alcohol a Human Right?

Hahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Lmfao of course he has. 🤦🏼‍♂️

I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DRINK MYSELF TO DEATH, HAVE YOU SAVE ME, AND THEN DO IT AS MANY TIMES AS IT TAKES BEFORE YOU RUN OUTTA LIVERS. - Every drunk I know.

Getting off the booze is hard, the choice between life or death isn't.

It's so it's not wasted on someone who will destroy it, when it could be used for someone who wouldn't.

Oh Geez 🤦🏻‍♀️Yes, it’s a discrimination thing 🙄 “insert sarcasm” 🙄

That applies to everybody!

Classic.

If you can't stay off the booze for 6 months, you don't deserve someone else's liver. The end.

Uh, WTF ...

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